8Bitdo M30 Bluetooth Gamepad, YIKESHU 8Bitdo N30 Pro 2 Wireless Game Controller for Nintendo Switch, PC, macOS and Android (Sega Genesis & Mega Drive Style)

So from what I've been reading, a vintage Japanese Sega Saturn controller is considered the ultimate gamepad for shoot-em-ups. Some people prefer the arcade stick, but I think the Saturn controller is more popular in the SHMUP community. It's also considered the best gamepad for retro fighting games, though an arcade stick is favored over the traditional gamepad for fighting games. However, there aren't any adapters that will let you use a real Saturn controller on the Nintendo Switch, so I decided to give this a try. Well, my SHMUP skills shot through the roof as soon as I tried out this pad. I never got seriously into the genre, but I'm now starting to since I have the proper equipment for it. I found modern analog sticks terrible for SHMUPS. There are many instances where you'll need to slowly move in one direction with the bullet patterns(or in some games like Radiant Silvergun or Ikaruga, to get through tight corridors), and this can only be accomplished on an analog stick by tapping the stick to one side over and over again, which works horribly because it's an analog stick, not a button. The Sony/Microsoft/Nintendo d-pads work for moving slowl, but they're still bad for SHMUPS since it's hard to move diagonally or in a circle. However, the 8-direction Sega-style d-pad is perfect. You can move slowly to one side by clicking the d-pad repeatedly and easily move in 8 directions. I wish I could compare this to a vintage Saturn controller or the officially licensed Retro-bit Saturn controller for Switch, but I haven't used either. I can't say if those are better or worse than those. All I know is that this blows away trying to play SHMUPS on a a DS4, Xbox One controller, or Switch Joy-cons(some people do actually like the DS2 for SHMUPS though, try if if you want :Þ). Games I've tested on it include Radiant Silvergun in Retroarch, DoDonPachi Dai-Ou-Jou in Retroarch, Ikaruga on PC, Touhou 16 on PC, Danmaku Unlimited 3 on Switch, Gunbird 2 on Switch, and Aero Fighters 2 on Switch. All controlled beautifully. A few things to note. For Retroarch I had to put it into Android mode(start+B). Windows mode(start+X) had a glitch where the R-button was just a duplicate of the Z-button and L wasn't recognized at all. For Touhou I had to put it into Windows mode and to use Joy2Key, since Joy2Key would not recognize Android mode. Both Android and Windows mode work with Steam, however, in Windows mode LB is mapped to L on the gamepad, LT to R, RB to Z, and RT to C. With Android mode it's mapped like it is on the Switch where L is LB and R is RB, which makes way more sense. But the bottom line is, if Windows mode is not working right on PC then use Android mode, Windows will recognize either(note that I do not know if Android mode works in wired mode, I tested with bluetooth mode). Apparently one is Xinput and one is Dinput, hence the different compatibility. And of course, Joy2Key is always an option for games that refuse to recognize the gamepad like Touhou. I had no issues with it on Switch since the Switch let's you remap controls now. However, the manual doesn't tell you how to change the D-pad from emulating the left analog stick to emulating the D-pad, even though it does have that feature. It's so typical of retro stuff to put features in and not tell you they exist. The pad also worked great in the Sega Genesis classic collection on Switch with Sonic 2 and Streets of Rage 3, and it worked well with Sonic Mania. I'll have to try it with Streets of Rage 4 soon. So bottom line, I can't compare it to the officially licensed Retro-bit controllers for the Nintendo Switch, I just know this a really good gamepad on it's own. And of course a vintage Saturn controller and an adapter is probably superior if you're serious about PC SHMUPS, but they won't work on Switch and will cost you more than this gamepad and lack bluetooth and the extra buttons. Also, while Retroarch, Steam, Joy2Key, and Switch all worked perfectly with this gamepad in the end, it did take some trial and error(that is the norm for anything other than Xbox controller/Windows and pro controller/Switch). I'll just say if you want a gamepad for PC and Switch that's great for SHMUPS and fighting games and classic Sega games, this works great.

他の社外品ゲームパッド(ロジクールF310使用)が、カチャカチャうるさく、保持に無駄な力が必要で指が痛くなっていたので買い換えて正解です。 Bluetoothも低遅延で格闘系でも、コマンド入力がしやすいのが◎です。 (上面にボタン×6もポイント) 勿論、USB-Cポートを無駄に取らないためAndroid端末とエミュレータでレトロゲームする人にはマジ推奨します。

El control es de buena calidad. Los botones tienen buen tacto. Muy buenos materiales y buena manufactura. A pesar de ser bluetooth no tiene lag.

This star rating is merely out of frustration. Why is this pad none responsive and not working with my Mortal Kombat 3 installed game on my Laptop?? I already purchased the other Nintendo type 8bit SN 30 and it is working well with games like "Gaurdian Legend" and Super Mario Bros 2.

Dank 8BitDo kommt das Retrofeeling aus den Kinderzimmern zurück in die Wohnzimmer. Nicht jeder ist mit einem Sega Saturn aufgewachsen, aber hatte zumindest Berührungspunkte mit dem Sega Genesis (Megadrive) das Eine oder andere Mal. Daher gleich vorweg - der 8BitDo M30 liegt zwischen Genesis und Saturn, da er eine "ergonomischere" Form an den Tag legt und die vom Saturn bekannten Shoulderbuttons mitbringt, sowie das "6-Button-Layout", was man auf dem Genesis später kennenlernte, wenn nicht zumindest am Saturn. Das D-Pad ist der heimliche Star der Show, da es haptisch unangefochten ist am derzeitigen Konsolenmarkt und sich nicht nur für Sega-Enthusiasten hervorragend eignet, sondern auch für Freunde der Fighting Games eine durchaus attraktive Option darstellt am derzeitigen Fightpad-Markt. Der Controller weißt super Werte auf im Bluetooth/Wireless Betrieb, sowie er kabgelgebunden natürlich an der Speerspitze der ms-Werte liegt, wie man es von 8BitDo und Brook gewohnt ist! Die 8BitDo-typischen Menu-Buttons und extra Buttons finden sich unterhalb des Startknopfs, wodurch man das Pad für diverseste Systeme einsetzen kann, wie zum Beispiel TurboGrafX-16 (auch bekannt als PC Engine) aber auch auf Basis des sehr horizontalen Layouts für Sega Master System oder auch den klassischen NES. Der Controller funktioniert reibungslos auf PC, Switch, mit Wingman auch auf allen Xbox-Plattformen, sowie äußerst hervorragend auf dem MiSTer FPGA. Hier sollte nicht lang überlegt werden, klare Kaufempfehlung für den M30! Preislich unschlagbar und qualitativ, wie gewohnt, ein Top-Produkt!