TEAMGROUP T-Create Expert Overclocking 10L DDR5 64GB Kit (2 x 32GB) 6400MHz (PC5-51200) CL34 Desktop Memory Module Ram - CTCED564G6400HC34BDC01

This is never good for new PC builders

Works great with Ryzen 7800x3D and a X670E motherboard. Its very stable with great timings with high speeds and overall theres no issues with the RAM. They also have a great design so they would look great in minimal themed PC builds.

These sticks are a steal at $250 for 64gb especially since they were expected to be $499 when they were announced. At first you expect the headspreader on these to be too small, but they are very effective. Teamgroup actually used quality thermal pads that are well placed plus good coverage on the PMIC. I don't know what type of die these chips are, but they clock great! I'm able to do 7000 m/Ts at 1.4vdimm bumped up from XMP(6400 34-44-44-88 at 1.35v). I won't go into my other voltage settings, but please keep in mind that you may need to do a bit of tuning across several different voltages depending on your CPU's memory controller and motherboard. I've also tested 8000 m/Ts single rank sticks from Gskill, and I find 6400 dual rank to be very close in performance despite the speed difference. Less than 1% difference in one game. I'd rather have more capacity than 8000m/Ts at the moment. If 64gb or dual rank is important to you, then look no further. I find these the best 32gb modules as of March 2023.

my computer keeps freezing during the boot screen can't even get into bios to turn off DOCP

I got the 64GB, 6400 at cl34 kit. The chips on mine are Hynix and overclock to 6800 with zero change to stock timings and voltages. I was able to go higher by adjusting voltages and timings but prefer the stability. These are definitely worth it and priced far lower than other brands. They are not RGB so if that is a problem for you, maybe look at Corsair but otherwise go for it! [UPDATE] One fine morning I turned my PC on to play a game and it began rebooting in a boot loop with a code C5. This code meant memory error. So, I opened it up and removed each stick until I found that 1 of them was dead. I tried this dead stick alone in each of the 4 slots on the motherboard and could not boot. So, I am now in an RMA situation and without my PC for who knows how long because I have to ship the memory to the company to get a replacement. So, after several months running at XMP(I backed off the OC after initial testing), death becomes her. I've never had ram stop working like this before, so maybe it's just DDR5 being more complex or I got a bad stick. Either way, it sucks. I think I'll try a different brand next time.