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# Persian Nativities IV: On the Revolutions of the Years of Nativities Paperback – August 9, 2019

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### ⭐⭐⭐⭐⭐ Excelente libro
*by A***A on December 27, 2024*

Un excelente libro, ideal para astrólogos avanzados que deseen profundizar en los conceptos de la perspectiva tradicional. No incluye muchos ejemplos.

### ⭐⭐⭐⭐⭐ Great book
*by A***Y on February 9, 2023*

Great piece of translation by Benjamin Dykes. Really useful.

### ⭐⭐⭐⭐⭐ A valuable contribution to the traditional astrological literature
*by K***R on August 24, 2019*

This book arrived in today's mail, and since then I've had trouble putting it down. I was familiar with Ben Dykes' translation of the Latin version of Abu Ma'Shar's text, which was based on an incomplete translation of the Arabic text into Latin, and was eagerly awaiting this edition, which is thorough and complete. This new translation from the Arabic adds to and clarifies many of the concepts that were left hanging in the older addition. The book runs some 700 pages, so I haven't had time to go through all of it yet, but the sections I've read are informative and enlightening.There are a couple of things I don't quite understand (yet perhaps). On page 6 in his introductory remarks Dr. Dykes says that Ma'Shar's handling of a criticism about the use of different tables of planetary positions to calculate returns doesn't make sense, yet reading Ma'Shar's words (in this translation) on pages 156-157, it seems to make perfect sense. As I understand it, Ma'Shar is saying that we calculate the radical chart carefully so that we know the exact degree of the natal Ascendant. We then add the length of one tropical year (according to Hiparchus) to the birth chart for each year of life to find the moment of each subsequent revolution. We then use the same tables that we used for the birth chart to calculate the ascending degree of the return.On page 9 of the introductory remarks I found the downward pointing arrow in the diagram about distributions to be a bit confusing. This may be how Ma'Shar conceived of distributions but the fact is that the points between the Asc and the IC rise to the horizon by primary motion as the Earth turns on its axis after birth. The radical Asc doesnot sink down toward the IC after birth.I was a bit dismayed about Dr. Dyke's comments about the lord of the orb. He says that he has never seen an astrologer use this in practice and he advises students to ignore this techique. As an astrologer who routinely uses the lord of the orb as part of the analysis of solar returns, I have found it to be useful and informative. In many ways the lord of the orb acts with respect to the profected ascendant as the partner does with respect to the distributor. This technique is widely known in the Spanish and Italian literature and has been the topic of presentations at astrology conferences for at least the past 5 or 6 years. I myself gave a presentation about the lord of the orb this year at the 36th Iberian Astrologer Congress in San Sebastian.This minor nitpicking points aside, I find this to be a valuable and informative book and I look forward to many more hours of careful study and experimentation with its contents. Any astrologer interested in traditional methods should get a copy and read this book.

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